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Point/Counterpoint Review: 2009 Upper Deck Exquisite Football

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Instead of doing a regular "vanilla" type of review, Cardboard Junction has decided to add a different twist and flavor to wax reviews. Whenever a new product comes out, we're going to have two collectors offer their different views on the product based on certain categories in what we call the Point/Counterpoint Review.

The 2009 Upper Deck Exquisite Football review will be done by two collectors: Steve and Nick. Both have been collectors for years, and both also break multiple cases of this product every year....They will be reviewing the product based on the following categories: Card Design, Content Value, Product Collation and will be providing their overall review of their product.

Card Design:

Steve:The design of the cards is visually pleasing. There is a lot of contrast on the cards, especially with the Rookie Patch Auto’s, making the patch stand out. Adding the team colors into the insert cards was another thing I like about this, just something to make the card more unique. Patch quality out of the 3 cases that I broke were good to excellent, all were multicolored. I think Upper Deck did a good job of trying to get quality patches into these cards to increase collectability. The sizes of the patches are very large, unlike some products that have a tiny swatch, not giving it the chance to be more than one color. The Gold pack contains a very nice auto’d card with a gold signature on a black background. Only downside to this is that smearing of the auto is more prevalent.

Nick:
Agree with Steve that the design is visually pleasing. I do like the border around the GU on the rookie auto patches. One thing I was not pleased with is the design of the Rookie Auto Patches. Depending how high or low a player signed the actual signature  gets lost in the picture. While on the subject of the Rookie Auto Patch cards the three that were in the case I busted were all multicolored. There are still a good amount of one color patches in the product. I am really a fan of the Gold Pack in each box because some of the cards are signed with a gold sharpie. Only downfall is that there is some smudging on some of the gold pack autos.  

Content Value:

Steve: Much like most high end products, this is extremely hit or miss. Box wise it would be a pretty big gamble to make your money back or even turn a profit. I could see someone easily losing $400 on a box or less likely profiting $1000+. One or two rookies will help pay for the entire case (Flacco, Ryan). Beckett has priced this early and I am shocked to see some of the RCPA’s going to so little. For example, the HI book value of a Steve Slaton RCPA is $200.00. I would expect something a little higher than that for some one who rushed for close to 1,300 yards and put up 9 rushing TD’s. Another thing that drives me nuts about this product is the quad jersey cards that are often all one color. You spend $500+ for 7 cards and you get one that will struggle to make $20 on Ebay. That just makes me sick.

Nick:
This is a high end product and not for the weak of heart. Without a Flacco or Ryan rookie auto patch breaking even will be tough on a single box break or case. Sales of the rookie auto patch card were strong out of the gate but have dropped like in past years releases. Beckett pricing is on the lower side which may have impacted the drop in prices. UD claims that this product is hand packed for value. I strongly disagree especially with a $400 plus price tag. Granted card manufacturers do not take into consideration the flipper in mind but market the ‘value’ to collectors, whom they believe a majority of their customers are. The gold pack was a welcome addition to sell unsealed but with so many redemptions these are ‘searched’ pretty easily.  This product is best for collectors who are after the BIG hit. It’s a gamble, it’s a rush, it’s usually a let down, but just the idea of possibly pulling a 1/1 dual shield auto is exciting. Should you expect to hit anything close to that, absolutely not, but it gets my blood flowing. There are some potentially good hits for one’s PC and some really good trade bait if you want to move the cards. The good thing is that most of the cards, including base, will bring you some sort of cash on Ebay, too


Product Collation:


Steve:
I will never understand why Upper Deck made the base cards more limited than the RCPA’s. It just boggles my mind, even the Level 2 RCPA’s are numbered higher than the base. We also have the “missing” Tiger Wood’s RCPA that has yet to be pulled by anyone out of a box of Exquisite. Some people feel that this is a bait and switch, and if it is, shame on you Upper Deck, what a low class method of trying to increase sales. However, my gut feeling is that Upper Deck back loaded the product to spark box and case sales later in the release, which is still a pretty crappy thing to do. Expect the product to skyrocket in price the second that Woods is pulled. Other than that, I think that card distribution was pretty good throughout my three cases, there were no doubles pulled and there were no boxes that had two card of the same player. There was no set card position other than the base card being first in the box, which made it more of a crap shoot where the RCPA was, making for a more exciting group break, of which my three cases were for.

Nick:
Each box was pretty consistent in the break with a base card, rookie auto patch, super swatch (horrible card design and player selection in my opinion…Brodie Croyle!!!), rookie auto and then a nice mix. UD each year puts a huge emphasis on hand packed for ‘value’. The case I busted each box was not nearly as bad as some that I have seen. Each box had at least one big hit: Jerry Rice GU/Auto, Joe Flacco GU/Auto, and a three color Chris Johnson Rookie Auto Patch. The base cards this year are numbered to 75 which def makes some of the most expensive base cards on the market. Thought the collation the case I busted was good but others have not been as lucky.

Overall Review:
Steve: If I were to grade this, I would probably give it a B- to C+, and most of that grade goes to the rookie class. My initial feelings were to give this a B+, but after seeing book values and the resale values of these cards, I personally do not think this is a worthwhile investment. I know the chance for the big hit is there, but I could not justify it to myself after buying a box after seeing those values. I’m more inclined to just sit back and pick up singles all day on the cheap. I would advise though to maybe buy these RCPA’s now and sitting on them for a while, because of the solid rookie class.  

Nick: I would have to grade this year’s Exquisite Football product a B. Upper Deck make a decent attempt to add value by adding the gold pack to each box. Thinking there are too many lower end players rookies and veterans that were inserted into the product. Also did not like the fact that there are more Rookie Auto Patch variations than in previous years (#’d to 75 was added). The rush you get when opening this product is like none other when it comes to football products on the market…..especially since not one Tiger Woods auto have surfaced yet. But with singles selling abnormal lows on Ebay you may be better off picking up singles of the players to speculate on or that you collect.


 

Sneak Peek: 2009 Donruss Elite Football

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Here's another Sneak Peek brought to your by our friends at Donruss: 2009 Donruss Elite Football.  We'll post more information on the product as we get it, but for now - here is the preliminary information on the upcoming release.

Release Date: Jun 10, 2009

Pack SRP: $6.00

Master Configuration: 5 cards, 20 packs, 12 boxes

Direct Configuration: 5 cards, 20 packs, 6 boxes

PER BOX ITEMS:

3 Memorabilia or Autograph cards (with at least one autograph)

2 Rookies

1 Parallel

1 Zoning Commission

1 Prime Targets

1 Passing the Torch

1 Stars

1 Elite Series

1 Chain Reaction

1 College Ties

1 College Ties Combos

And 2 Others of the following:

Zoning Commission
Prime Targets
Passing the Torch
Stars
Elite Series
Chain Reaction
College Ties
College Ties Combos


 

Sneak Peek: 2009 Topps Magic Football

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Sneak Peek of the new 2009 Topps Magic Football brought to you by our friends at Freedom Card Board...

here's the preliminary information on the product.

Release Date: Mid June 2009

24 packs per box/8 cards per pack/case configuration: unknown.

3 autographs per box.

Here's the preliminary checklist from FCB as well../

 

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AUTOGRAPHED, BASE, & PARALLEL CARDS         

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1Domenik HixonAkronVeteran44Fred TaylorFloridaVeteran 

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2Brodie CroyleAlabamaVeteran45DeShawn WynnFloridaVeteran 

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3Glenn CoffeeAlabamaRookie46Lorenzo BookerFlorida StateVeteran 

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4Demeco RyansAlabamaVeteran47Sebastian JanikowskiFlorida StateVeteran 

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5Roddy WhiteUABVeteran48Greg JonesFlorida StateVeteran 

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6Dexter JacksonAppalachian StateVeteran49Walter JonesFlorida StateVeteran 

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7Derek HaganArizona StateVeteran50Ernie SimsFlorida StateVeteran 

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8Zach MillerArizona StateVeteran51Lawrence TimmonsFlorida StateVeteran 

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9Ryan TorainArizona StateVeteran52Leon WashingtonFlorida StateVeteran 

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10Andrew WalterArizona StateVeteran53Bernard BerrianFresno StateVeteran 

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11Tarvaris JacksonArkansasVeteran54Paul WilliamsFresno StateVeteran 

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12Felix JonesArkansasVeteran55Reggie BrownGeorgiaVeteran 

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13Darren McFaddenArkansasVeteran56Knowshon MorenoGeorgiaRookie 

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14Jason CampbellAuburnVeteran57Matthew StaffordGeorgiaRookie 

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15Kenny IronsAuburnVeteran58Mohamed MassaquoiGeorgiaRookie 

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16Bo JacksonAuburnRetired59Leonard PopeGeorgiaVeteran 

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17Ben ObomanuAuburnVeteran60Tashard ChoiceGeorgia TechVeteran 

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18Carnell WilliamsAuburnVeteran61P.J. DanielsGeorgia Tech Veteran 

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19Nate DavisBall StateRookie62Colt BrennanHawaiiVeteran 
         

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20Matt HasselbeckBoston CollegeVeteran63Marques ColstonHofstraVeteran 

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21Mathias KiwanukaBoston CollegeVeteran64Donnie AveryHoustonVeteran 

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22Matt RyanBoston CollegeVeteran65Kevin KolbHoustonVeteran 

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23John BeckBYUVeteran66Greg LewisIllinoisVeteran 

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24Justin ForsettCaliforniaVeteran67Rashard MendenhallIllinoisVeteran 

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25Lavelle HawkinsCaliforniaVeteran68James HardyIndianaVeteran 

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26DeSean JacksonCaliforniaVeteran69Antwaan Randle ElIndianaVeteran 

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27Marshawn LynchCaliforniaVeteran70Scott ChandlerIowaVeteran 

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28Brandon MarshallUCFVeteran71Chad GreenwayIowaVeteran 

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29Asante SamuelUCFVeteran72Aaron KampmanIowaVeteran 

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30Kevin SmithUCFVeteran73Shonn GreeneIowaRookie 

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31Gaines AdamsClemsonVeteran74Aqib TalibKansasVeteran 

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32Tye HillClemsonVeteran75Yamon FigursKansas StateVeteran 

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33James DavisClemsonRookie76Josh FreemanKansas StateRookie 

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34Jerome SimpsonCoastal CarolinaVeteran77Jordy NelsonKansas StateVeteran 

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35Chris BrownColoradoVeteran78Antonio GatesKent StateVeteran 

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36David AndersonColorado StateVeteran79Keenan BurtonKentuckyVeteran 

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37Donald BrownConnecticutRookie80Jake DelhommeLa-LafayetteVeteran 

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38Joe FlaccoDelawareVeteran81Terry BradshawLouisiana TechRetired 

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39Tony RomoEastern IllinoisVeteran82Ryan MoatsLouisiana TechVeteran 
         

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40Dallas BakerFloridaVeteran83Deion BranchLouisvilleVeteran 

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41Derrick HarveyFloridaVeteran84Brian BrohmLouisvilleVeteran 

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42Louis MurphyFloridaRookie85Michael BushLouisvilleVeteran 

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43Percy HarvinFloridaRookie86Amobi OkoyeLouisvilleVeteran 

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AUTOGRAPHED, BASE, & PARALLEL CARDS (cont.)        

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87Kolby SmithLouisvilleVeteran130Muhsin MuhammadMichigan StateVeteran 

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88Joseph AddaiLSUVeteran131Drew StantonMichigan StateVeteran 

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89Dwayne BoweLSUVeteran132Devin ThomasMichigan StateVeteran 

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90Michael ClaytonLSUVeteran133Laurence MaroneyMinnesotaVeteran 

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91Craig "Buster" DavisLSUVeteran134Eli ManningMississippiVeteran 

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92Early DoucetLSUVeteran135Deuce McAllisterMississippiVeteran 

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93Kevin FaulkLSUVeteran136Patrick WillisMississippiVeteran 

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94Matt FlynnLSUVeteran137Jerious NorwoodMississippi StateVeteran 

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95Jacob HesterLSUVeteran138Coffman ChaseMissouriRookie 

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96LaRon LandryLSUVeteran139Chase DanielMissouriRookie 

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97Ahmad BradshawMarshallVeteran140Jeremy MaclinMissouriRookie 

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98Randy MossMarshallVeteran141Brad SmithMissouriVeteran 

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99Chad PenningtonMarshallVeteran142Brandon JacksonNebraskaVeteran 

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100Darrius Heyward-BeyMarylandRookie143Nate BurlesonNevada-RenoVeteran 

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101Kris JenkinsMarylandVeteran144Marcus SmithNew MexicoVeteran 
         

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102Shawne MerrimanMarylandVeteran145Alge CrumplerNorth CarolinaVeteran 

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103DeAngelo WilliamsMemphisVeteran146Ronald CurryNorth CarolinaVeteran 

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104Frank GoreMiami (FL)Veteran147Hakeem NicksNorth CarolinaRookie 

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105Devin HesterMiami (FL)Veteran148Willie ParkerNorth CarolinaVeteran 

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106Ray LewisMiami (FL)Veteran149Andre BrownN. C. StateRookie 

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107Willis McGaheeMiami (FL)Veteran150DaJuan MorganN. C. StateVeteran 

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108Greg OlsenMiami (FL)Veteran151Phillip RiversN. C. StateVeteran 

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109Roscoe ParrishMiami (FL)Veteran152Mario WilliamsN. C. StateVeteran 

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110Antrel RolleMiami (FL)Veteran153Vincent JacksonNorthern ColoradoVeteran 

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111Reggie WayneMiami (FL)Veteran154Garrett WolfeNorthern IllinoisVeteran 

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112Kellen Winslow Jr.Miami (FL)Veteran155Xavier OmonN.W. Missouri StateVeteran 

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113Adrian ArringtonMichiganVeteran156John CarlsonNotre DameVeteran 

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114B.J. AskewMichiganVeteran157Anthony FasanoNotre DameVeteran 

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115Jason AvantMichiganVeteran158Julius JonesNotre DameVeteran 

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116Tom BradyMichiganVeteran159Brady QuinnNotre DameVeteran 

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117Steve BreastonMichiganVeteran160Maurice StovallNotre DameVeteran 

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118Braylon EdwardsMichiganVeteran161Bobby CarpenterOhio StateVeteran 

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119Leon HallMichiganVeteran162Chris WellsOhio StateRookie 

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120David HarrisMichiganVeteran163Joey GallowayOhio StateVeteran 

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121Mike HartMichiganVeteran164Vernon GholstonOhio StateVeteran 
         

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122Chad HenneMichiganVeteran165Ted Ginn Jr.Ohio StateVeteran 

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123Drew HensonMichiganVeteran166Anthony GonzalezOhio StateVeteran 

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124Steven HutchinsonMichiganVeteran167Michael JenkinsOhio StateVeteran 

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125Marlin JacksonMichiganVeteran168P.J. HillWisconsinRookie 

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126Ty LawMichiganVeteran169Troy SmithOhio StateVeteran 

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127Mario ManninghamMichiganVeteran170Mark BradleyOklahomaVeteran 

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128LaMarr WoodleyMichiganVeteran171Brandon JonesOklahomaVeteran 

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129Javon RingerMichigan StateRookie172Juaquin IglesiasOklahomaRookie 

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AUTOGRAPHED, BASE, & PARALLEL CARDS (cont.)        

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173Malcolm KellyOklahomaVeteran216Jamaal CharlesTexasVeteran 

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174Adrian PetersonOklahomaVeteran217Aaron RossTexasVeteran 

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175Steve SlatonWest VirginiaVeteran218Chris SimmsTexasVeteran 

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176Brandon PettigrewOklahoma StateRookie219Limas SweedTexasVeteran 

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177Dennis DixonOregonVeteran220Dave ThomasTexasVeteran 

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178Jonathan StewartOregonVeteran221Roy WilliamsTexasVeteran 

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179Demetrius WilliamsOregonVeteran222Selvin YoungTexasVeteran 

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180Derek AndersonOregon StateVeteran223Vince YoungTexasVeteran 

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181Stephen JacksonOregon StateVeteran224Eddie RoyalVirginia TechVeteran 

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182Chad JohnsonOregon StateVeteran225Harrell GrahamTexas TechRookie 

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183Pat WhiteWest VirginiaRookie226Michael CrabtreeTexas TechRookie 
         

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184Dan ConnorPenn StateVeteran227Zach ThomasTexas TechVeteran 

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185Derrick WilliamsPenn StateRookie228Wes WelkerTexas TechVeteran 

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186Larry JohnsonPenn StateVeteran229Johnnie Lee HigginsUTEPVeteran 

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187Paul PoslusznyPenn StateVeteran230Matt ForteTulaneVeteran 

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188Tony DorsettPittsburghRetired231DeAngelo HallVirginia TechVeteran 

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189LeSean McCoyPittsburghRookie232Kevin JonesVirginia TechVeteran 

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190Dan MarinoPittsburghRetired233John David BootyUSCVeteran 

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191Drew BreesPurdueVeteran234Reggie BushUSCVeteran 

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192Dustin KellerPurdueVeteran235Fred DavisUSCVeteran 

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193Kyle OrtonPurdueVeteran236Justin FargasUSCVeteran 

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194Lawyer MilloyWashingtonVeteran237Dwayne JarrettUSCVeteran 

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195Kenny BrittRutgersRookie238Matt LeinartUSCVeteran 

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196Brian LeonardRutgersVeteran239Mark SanchezUSCRookie 

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197Ray RiceRutgersVeteran240Keith RiversUSCVeteran 

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198Kevin O'ConnellSan Diego StateVeteran241Steve SmithUSCVeteran 

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199James JonesSan Jose StateVeteran242Lendale WhiteUSCVeteran 

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200Eric DickersonSMURetired243Alex SmithUtahVeteran 

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201Cook JaredSouth CarolinaRookie244Kevin CurtisUtah StateVeteran 

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202Andre HallSouth FloridaVeteran245Jordan PalmerUTEPVeteran 

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203Brandon JacobsSouthern IllinoisVeteran246Jay CutlerVanderbiltVeteran 
         

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204Trent EdwardsStanfordVeteran247Brian WestbrookVillanovaVeteran 

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205John ElwayStanfordRetired248Thomas JonesVirginiaVeteran 

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206Jim BrownSyracuseRetired249Alvin PearmanVirginiaVeteran 

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207Dwight FreeneySyracuseVeteran250Matt SchaubVirginiaVeteran 

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208Marvin HarrisonSyracuseVeteran     

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209LaDainian TomlinsonTCUVeteran     

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210Peyton ManningTennesseeVeteran     

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211Jerod MayoTennesseeVeteran     

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212Robert MeachemTennesseeVeteran     

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213Donte StallworthTennesseeVeteran     

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214Dominique Rodgers-CromartieTennessee StateVeteran     

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215Earl CampbellTexasRetired     

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AUTOGRAPHED CARDS   Alumni Triple Autographs     

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Alumni Dual Autographs   ATAChase CoffmanMissouri  

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ADAReggie WayneMiami CDMChase DanielMissouri  

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WWKellen Winslow Jr.Miami  Jeremy MaclinMissouri  

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ADAEarl CampbellTexas ATATed Ginn Jr.Ohio State  

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CYVince YoungTexas GSGTroy SmithOhio State  

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ADAMichael CrabtreeTexas Tech  Anthony GonzalezOhio State  

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CHGraham HarrellTexas Tech ATAReggie BushUSC  
         

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ADASteve SlatonWest Virgina BSWMark SanchezUSC  

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SWPat WhiteWest Virgina  Lendale WhiteUSC  

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ADADerrick BrooksFlorida State ATAMichael BushLouisville  

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BSErnie SimsFlorida State BBOBrian BrohmLouisville  

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ADADeSean JacksonCalifornia  Amobi OkoyeLouisville  

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JLMarshawn LynchCalifornia ATADarren McFaddenArkansas  

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ADAMatthew StaffordGeorgia MJJTarvaris JacksonArkansas  

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SMKnowshon MorenoGeorgia  Felix JonesArkansas  

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ADAFrank GoreMiami ATATy LawMichigan  

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GMWillis McGaheeMiami LBETom BradyMichigan  

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ADAChad PenningtonMarshall  Braylon EdwardsMichigan  

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PMRandy MossMarshall ATADeuce McAllisterMississippi  

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ADAJoseph AddaiLSU MMWEli ManningMississippi  

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ABDewayne BoweLSU  Patrick WillisMississippi  

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ADAStephen JacksonOregon State48 Magic Autographs     

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JJChad JohnsonOregon State48MA-TB Terry BradshawLouisiana Tech  

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ADATom BradyMichigan48MA-JB Jim BrownSyracuse  

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BEBraylon EdwardsMichigan48MA-JE John ElwayStanford  

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ADAJeremy MaclinMissouri48MA-EC Earl CampbellTexas  

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MCChase CoffmanMissouri48MA-ED Eric DickersonSMU  
         

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ADADan MarinoPittsbugh48MA-BJ Bo JacksonAuburn  

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MDTony DorsettPittsbugh48MA-DM Dan MarinoPittsburgh  

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ADAPercy HarvinFlorida48MA-TD Tony DorsettPittsburgh  

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HMLouis MurphyFlorida48MA-AP Adrian PetersonOklahoma  

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Alumni Triple Autographs  48MA-MC Michael CrabtreeTexas Tech  

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ATAKnowshon MorenoGeorgia      

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MSMMatthew StaffordGeorgia      

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 Mohamed MassaquoiGeorgia      

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ATATony DorsettPittsburgh      

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DMMDan MarinoPittsburgh      

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 LeSean McCoyPittsburgh      

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ATAReggie WayneMiami      

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LWWRay LewisMiami      

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 Kellen Winslow Jr.Miami      

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BUYBACK MAGIC CARDS   Alumni Insert    

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TBDTBDTBD AD-SMMatthew StaffordGeorgia  

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INSERT MAGIC CARDS    Knowshon MorenoGeorgia  
         

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All-Americans Insert   AD-GMFrank GoreMiami  

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AA1John ElwayStanford  Willis McGaheeMiami  

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AA2Knowshon MorenoGeorgia AD-PMChad PenningtonMarshall  

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AA3Bo JacksonAuburn  Randy MossMarshall  

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AA4LaDainian TomlinsonTCU AD-ABJoseph AddaiLSU  

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AA5Jonathan StewartOregon  Dewayne BoweLSU  

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AA6Earl CampbellTexas Tech AD-JJStephen JacksonOregon State  

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AA7Jeremy MaclinMissouri  Chad JohnsonOregon State  

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AA8DeAngelo WilliamsMemphis AD-BETom BradyMichigan  

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AA9Shonn GreeneIowa  Braylon EdwardsMichigan  

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AA10Matt RyanBoston College AD-MCJeremy MaclinMissouri  

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AA11Dan MarinoPittsburgh  Chase CoffmanMissouri  

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AA12Peyton ManningTennessee AD-MDDan MarinoPittsbugh  

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AA13Donald BrownConnecticut  Tony DorsettPittsbugh  

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AA14Eric DickersonSMU AD-HMPercy HarvinFlorida  

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AA15Vince YoungTexas  Louis MurphyFlorida  

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AA16Bo JacksonAuburn Magic Thrills Insert    

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AA17Michael CrabtreeTexas Tech MT12007 Fiesta Bowl   

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AA18Jim BrownSyracuse MT22006 Rose Bowl   

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AA19Larry FitzgeraldPittsburgh MT32003 Fiesta Bowl   
         

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AA20Adrian PetersonOklahoma MT42005 Rose Bowl   

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AA21Terry BradshawLouisiana Tech MT52006 Sugar Bowl   

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AA22Javon RingerMichigan State MT62000 Orange Bowl   

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AA23Tony DorsettPittsburgh MT72006 Orange Bowl   

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AA24Darren McFaddenArkansas MT82004 Sugar Bowl   

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AA25Reggie BushUSC MT92005 Sugar Bowl   

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Alumni Insert   MT101980 Holiday Bowl   

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AD-WWReggie WayneMiami MT112008 Meineke Bowl   

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 Kellen Winslow Jr.Miami MT122009 Rose Bowl   

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AD-CYEarl CampbellTexas MT132008 Alamo Bowl   

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 Vince YoungTexas MT142007 Hawaii Bowl   

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AD-CHMichael CrabtreeTexas Tech MT152006 Insight Bowl   

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 Graham HarrellTexas Tech MT162009 National Championship Game   

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AD-SWSteve SlatonWest Virgina MT172008 Orange Bowl   

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 Pat WhiteWest Virgina MT182008 Papajohn.com Bowl   

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AD-BSDerrick BrooksFlorida State MT192008 Capital One Bowl   

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 Ernie SimsFlorida State MT202009 Fiesta Bowl   

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AD-JLDeSean JacksonCalifornia      

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 Marshawn LynchCalifornia      

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INSERT MAGIC CARDS        
         

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48 Magic Insert        

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M1Vince YoungTexasM16Declaration of Independence of Israel  Historical 

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M2McCollum v. Board of EducationHistoricalM17Jim Brown  Syracuse 

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M3Adrian PetersonOklahomaM18Dewey defeats Truman  Historical 

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M4Percy HarvinFloridaM19Dan Marino  Pittsburgh 

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M5Terry BradshawLouisiana TechM20Jeremy Maclin  Missouri 

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M6Marshall PlanHistoricalM21Chris Johnson  E. Carolina 

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M7Tony DorsettPittsburghM22Executive Order 9981  Historical 

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M8Knowshon MorenoGeorgiaM23Steve Slaton  W. Virginia 

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M9Bo JacksonAuburnM24Death of a Salesman  Historical 

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M10World Health OrganizationHistoricalM25Reggie Bush  USC 

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M11Michael CrabtreeTexas TechM26Matthew Stafford  Georgia 

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M12Berlin BlockageHistoricalM27Mark Sanchez  USC 

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M13Earl CampbellTexasM28LP Record   Historical 

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M14LeSean McCoyPittsburghM29Eric Dickerson  SMU 

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M15John ElwayStanfordM30Mária Telkes  Historical

as soon as more information becomes available, we will update this sneak peek
 

Point/Counterpoint Review: 2009 Topps Heritage Baseball

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Instead of doing a regular "vanilla" type of review, Cardboard Junction has decided to add a different twist and flavor to wax reviews. Whenever a new product comes out, we're going to have two collectors offer their different views on the product based on certain categories in what we call the Point/Counterpoint Review.

The 2009 Topps Heritage Baseball review will be done by two collectors: Tim and Brent. Both have been collectors for years, and both also break multiple cases of this product every year....They will be reviewing the product on a scale of 1-10 based on the following categories: Card Design, Target Audience, Collation, Checklist Value, Content Value and will be providing their overall review of their product.

 

2009 Topps Heritage Baseball

Card Design

Tim (9)
Topps has done a tremendous job recreating the look of the 1960 design. The appropriately thick card stock and the gorgeous fronts of the cards are a welcome change to the seemingly endless displays of modern-looking sets that appear each month.

Brent (8)

I agree with Tim that Topps has done a great job at reproducing the 1960 set design. It is one of Topps best designs historically and is favored by many longtime collectors. And yes, the card stock is nice and of appropriate thickness. My only knock on the card design would be that of the insert subsets. Of course the original 1960 set did not have inserts, so these designs are made with an older feel, but to me they are not as well done as in years past. The inserts are very bland to the eye. The Then & Now insert set is my least favorite by design simply because the pictures are not very big, and the bright blue and red coloring just throw it off for me. I'd like to see Topps do some of its “famous photo magic” like UD Masterpieces did in football this past season and create cards with the two players appearing together in the same photo, instead of making the names and colors so prevalent.

Target Audience

Tim
This product is unique in that it does not have one singular target audience for whom it is "best." Set builders, collectors and even case flippers (if done early) will benefit from ordering Topps Heritage.

Set builders can open a box or two and have fun putting together a set. They can also open an entire case and have fun putting together a master set.

Collectors can choose to just buy a base or master set and put it away for their children or themselves, or they can enjoy looking through the cards and being reminded of their youth when they not only collected cards but they collected cards that looked and felt just like these do.

Brent

This product does target all baseball card collectors, both old and new. It has the excitement of big hit potential plus the thrill of chasing cards to complete sets. If there is a target audience it would be die hard baseball fans, especially those who appreciate the history of the game and the history of baseball cards. It is geared to set collectors, especially those who have been collecting since they were much younger, but the set also offers the big hits and innovations (such as autographs and chromes) for the younger generation. Plus, this is one of the rare sets where older collectors can get the first autographs or relics of their longtime heroes and legends of the past and present in one set. Heritage offers many first-time autographs of players from the ‘50s and ‘60s, and that is something that can target both younger and older collectors.


Collation

Tim (2)
I opened three cases and still do not have a master set. That is very disappointing. I have dinged and damaged cards, and I had three "dead" boxes containing zero relics or autos. I still do not know what a black chrome card looks like in this year's release. All of this is absolutely inexcusable, and it continues a disturbing trend during the past two years from virtually all Topps products: bad quality control.

Brent (8)

I feel for Tim but disagree about the collation and quality control issues. I open more Topps baseball products then anyone I know and have not experienced the unfortunate things that Tim has. In 15 cases, I was able to yield 14 complete master sets with inserts. Plus, I was just 13 SP cards away from making four more, which I did complete through trading. There are 75 SP cards, and each case should yield 96. Again, with one or maybe a few cases your collation might be off. But with larger amounts, it will not be most of the time. I have opened at least 15 cases of this product every year for the past six years and have studied it to great lengths, and I have found 12 to 18 cases are best. In regard to the quality control issues Tim has experienced, I have not seen the same. I did not have one noticeably damaged card this year from Heritage.


Checklist Value

Tim (3)
Topps did another bait and switch and released a checklist different from the sell sheet (no Ryan Howard/Sparky Anderson dual auto, for example). The auto checklist is weak, and the relic checklist, considering all the old timers Topps now has signed, is also weak, Mickey Mantle notwithstanding. But to be fair, this is not a product about big hits. And Topps did include some super rare SP cards.

Brent (5)
I agree that the checklist is weak this year, the weakest it has ever been, but I do not agree with the “bait and switch” comment. Tim mentioned one card, and that is the only card in the checklist that has not been pulled. But back to the checklist; it is beyond weak. Last year there were 72 jersey and bat relics in the single player set, which included some nice, although rare, retired players that commanded premium prices. This year there are 24, and none are very tough to pull; in addition, the players that are included are not the greatest, except for the Red Sox players and Manny Ramirez. Regardless, the checklist is very weak. The single player autograph checklist is also smaller than years past. Not one big retired name was included. The checklist is much stronger in the dual autographs, dual relics and flashback stadium seat sets. They do include retired legends, and with the lowered production of the base set, they are not impossible to pull. I would give the master set checklist high marks, but as far as the hits, Tim is correct that it is very weak. But even a weak Heritage checklist can lead to some nice coin for some minor or no name players. And where are all those deceased HOF legends that Topps recently acquired the rights to? Not even a subset for some of them, or variations in the base set like with Topps Series 1? I realize that it is not part of Heritage's history to include the older players in the base set, but they could have made very interesting subsets or rare SPs.

Content Value

Tim
Content Value -- box (3)
Content Value -- case (6)
Content Value -- multiple cases (8)

Heritage is priced relatively low, but opening an individual box or two is not the way to go for content value. Autos run about one per case, and most of the other one-per-box "hits" are $1-$2 relics. The value in Heritage is in the base sets, SPs, chromes and parallels.

Brent

Content Value -- box (2)
Content Value -- case (5)
Content Value -- multiple cases (9)

Tim is dead on about the box value of this product. Sure they are neat cards and the price point is inexpensive compared to the average product, but anyone who opens a lone box will end up mostly disappointed unless they pull a monster hit. There is not even a hit/SP/insert in every pack. You are not able to come close to a base set. The autographs are also tough, and the ad panel box toppers don't add a whole bunch of value as some past toppers have. As far as Heritage by the case, it is a relatively inexpensive case, but again, you may only receive one big hit, so it better be a good one. (Luckily, most Heritage hits are better than in an average product.) Again, with one case, you may put together a master set with inserts but only with perfect collation. With multiple cases is where Heritage’s value is unsurpassed (with the exception of perhaps Allen & Ginter). A breaker will not only get several master sets and rare pulls to add value but also will be able to put together tougher sets of relics, box toppers, chromes and possibly even refractors. Some of these items are rarely seen in complete sets and add tremendous value. Plus the rarer pulls are worth more than would be expected because of the Heritage brand. One word of caution about large breaks: While the value does increase with multiple cases, there is a breaking point. Eventually too many cases are just that: too many cases. I learned this three years ago when busting 33 cases. Eventually, the hits and sets decline in the secondary market after release, yet I still paid the same for each case. So while the first 15 cases may have produced nice sales of sets and pulls, those same sets and pulls did not result in the same nice sales after a certain time period. It is best to wait for the case price to drop (if it does) and go back and pick it up cheaper to continue breaking, because sets and SPs sell well for months, especially as baseball season begins and the number of low and midrange releases drops.


Overall Review

Tim (7)
It's hard to give this product too low of a rating because of the consistent popularity and truly nostalgic feel it brings to the table each year. A "good" year would get a rating of 10; an average year would get a rating of 8 or 9, and a "bad" year would get a 6 or 7 from me. This year's quality control issues have left me cold, but the overall beauty of the cards themselves counts for a lot, too.

Brent (8)

It is hard to knock the overall product as Tim stated. It is one of the top moneymakers for large case breakers each year. And even with a weaker checklist this year, it will still do quite well. The weaker checklist is the only reason the scores are lower this year. With Topps cutting back on production because of fewer orders, it has messed with the checklist a little; however, it also has some positives. Besides less supply of the product, the odds also improved from recent years, resulting in chromes, refractors and big hits coming more often. With Heritage there is just so much offered: base, SPs, inserts, chromes, refractors, box toppers, autographs, relics, great classic design, bright colors, excitement of building a complete master set, HOF and retired players, rare SP variations and, of course, gum.



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Sneak Peek: 08/09 UD Premier Basketball

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Upper Deck brings to you another installment of what was one of the best products of 07/08, Upper Deck Premier.

Box Breakdown:

  • 1 Rookie Autographed Jersey #’d to 199 or less
  • 1 Premier Stitching Patch card #’d to 50 or less
  • 1 Autographed card #’d to 99 or less
  • 1 Triple or Quad Jersey card #’d to 99 or less
  • 1 Patch card #’d to 50 or less
  • 1 Regular card #’d to 175
  • Plus an extra autograph, auto/memorabilia or multiple swatch memorabilia card

  

 

 

 

This product is slated to release March 11th.


 
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